Hacker News
points by nielsbot 4 days ago | 0 comments
moving to the right would be a trap. (cf. Dem party vs Trump) The left must instead build an anti-right wing narrative. People vote on material benefits so delivering more of those should be top priority—I think Trumps slump in the US proves that.
[–] marcosdumay 4 days ago
Nobody wants to see them cut taxes from the rich or reduce employers rights. The popular "right" in Brazil wants taxes to be easier to pay, judges not to decide based on who is asking, and clear rules on what you can or can't do.

Also, nobody can beat Dilma on cutting taxes from the rich.

[–] nielsbot 4 days ago
But there's also a religious fundamentalist faction, no? Which I recently learned was fomented by the CIA years ago under Reagan (when the Catholic church was moving left and the "US" was afraid of Brazil moving to the left as well)

https://smalands.org/en/the-cold-wars-unholy-war-how-the-cia...

[–] marcosdumay 3 days ago
That exists, yes.

Those, the "we must kill all the criminals!!", the actual nazis and all the other people that identify with the Bolsonaro family add up to about 15% of the country.

[–] bit-anarchist 4 days ago
Delivering material benefits requires fiscal health, something Brazil lacks: https://tradingeconomics.com/brazil/government-debt-to-gdp
[–] nielsbot 3 days ago
No it doesn't. And you citing a government debt stat doesn't prove it. As a counter-example, the UK set up the NHS in 1948 when their public debt was over 200% of GDP.

https://uk-debt.info/timeline

[–] bit-anarchist 3 days ago
You are ignoring the fact that NHS started compromised to allow the payment of UK's debt. And consider that Brazil's interest rates are already high.
[–] nielsbot 3 days ago
So you're saying it's possible?
[–] bit-anarchist 3 days ago
No, I'm saying UK already had to compromise, and Brazil doesn't have the same economic advantages as the UK did. In all, while I haven't stated it's 100% impossible, I haven't stated it's possible, even less so preferable.