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points by itubaj 4 days ago | 0 comments

It was anyway a lose-lose situation. I hope to see Brazil free from 'bolsopetismo'/'bolsolulismo' (as some of we call this disease to keep Bolsonaro and Lula or their parties on the presidential room) soon, but here we go for another 4 years...

[–] dachris 4 days ago

On the same day, in Serbia, the long-term incumbent was defeated by a party/movement that has been founded only 2 years ago as a response to corruption issues. So change can happen.

[–] culi 3 days ago

Serbia has actual corruption. Lula went to jail because when Bolsonaro was in charge they made up a case about him accepting beachfront property. Even the UN Human Rights Committee found that the prosecutions violated his due process and political rights

Lula's Fala.BR platform is a massive step up for free and public access to information for all Brazilians and federal contracting procedures have been standardized and oversight has been massively improved.

Lula represents a massive step towards fighting corruption

[–] 79a6ed87 3 days ago

> Lula went to jail because when Bolsonaro was in charge they made up a case about him accepting beachfront property.

Lula went to jail before Bolsonaro came into power and got released while he was president. It's a well remembered case in Latin America and it's easy to correct you on that.

[–] culi 3 days ago

Well he wasn't elected yet, but the reason his conviction was thrown out by the Supreme Court and the reason the United Nations stepped in to call the case out as bogus was because investigative journalists from The Intercept got ahold of leaked Telegram messages proving Bolsonaro made a deal with the corrupt judge Sérgio Moro.

The case is the reason Lula was barred from running against Bolsonaro. After Bolsonaro won, he appointed Moro as the Minister of Justice and Public Security as a political reward.

The case has been thoroughly disproven as bogus by journalists and even the United Nations. It's genuinely depressing how many people still believe in it

[–] saidnooneever 3 days ago

proud of serbians! they rly got a big power move going. historical is an understatement. Really hope it will being better times for the ppl there!

[–] matheusmoreira 4 days ago

I agree with you. I wish we had better candidates. The right had Dr. Enéas Carneiro, who's dead. The left has PCO, which is awesome but is shunned by the rest of the left because they are bold enough to criticize Lula and PT. Neither ever had or will have any realistic chance of ever winning.

It's not going to end until Lula literally drops dead. This country proved that today.

[–] flykespice 3 days ago

> It's not going to end until Lula literally drops dead. This country proved that today.

It's not going to end until the opposition comes up with a competent alternative. Flavio was the worst choice they did.

[–] culi 3 days ago

PCO is awesome but the US would never allow a Marxist power in power in their "backyard". The Donroe Doctrine reinforces that