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points by hypfer 4 days ago | 0 comments
I think the point that might've been lost here is that Art (and this is Art) is not supposed to be about the destination but about the journey.

The whole magic of someone doing this is someone doing this.

No one did this.

And there is no utility in it either. No one needs a 1:1 scale Minecraft map of Switzerland for anything.

So the whole thing is just an empty husk of an idea implemented in a way that shows lack of understanding why this niche of content existed in the first place.

[–] jnovek 3 days ago
“No one did this … the whole thing is just an empty husk of an idea“

If you think it’s easy enough that “no one” made it, why not voxel-ize a location yourself to test your hypothesis? I imagine it wouldn’t take but moments of your day to fire off the prompt “Build New Jersey out of voxels”.

Based on your comment, it sounds like you believe that’s the sum total of work the author put into it.

[–] well_ackshually 3 days ago
Deal! Let's go!

Here's Chicago (assuming their preview is always the same): https://map2minecraft.com/for/developers#world-demo. It took zero effort.

Picking Providence, New York on a map took two minutes to render, and I was walking around it. Paying 20 bucks gets me the whole 88km². Is it steep? Yeah, a bit. At least they get to have the excuse that it takes some actual CPU time to render because it's all on demand, but they don't have the gall to pretend that they "need it to improve the peaks".

But if you don't want to pay a single cent, feel free to download https://arnismc.com/, it'll fetch the data from OSM, terrain elevation from Tilezen, and you can get absolutely any area in the world you want. It'll cost you... The electricity and the time.

You don't even need to prompt it. cargo run --release --no-default-features -- --output-dir="C:/YOUR_PATH/.minecraft/saves" --bbox="min_lat,min_lng,max_lat,max_lng" is right there. It's a single command.

>it sounds like you believe that’s the sum total of work the author put into it.

It _is_ the sum total of work the author put into it. Prism Launcher (https://prismlauncher.org/) handles the modding part of it. OptiFine makes it playable. Cubic Chunks removes the height limit. Can't be arsed to download 1GB of test data, but arnis or equivalent open source software is used to voxelize it. Leeching off of free work, through and through.

Also the "author" is trying to pass this off as a small, funny little independent artist stuff, when the company behind it quite literally sells 3D prints of the same areas of Switzerland. The entire goal is to be a profiteer, a leech. Literally a dropshipper.

[–] jnovek 3 days ago
I’m not from the Minecraft realm, I had no idea the tools were this sophisticated. That’s pretty rad.
[–] pixl97 3 days ago
>It'll cost you... The electricity and the time.

Remember when a huge portion of the internet was pirating music because it was expensive and difficult to buy. Then do you remember when a few streaming services came along offering most music and most people stopped pirating it? Because I do.

Saving people a little bit of time and making it easy is how you become a billionaire.

[–] hypfer 3 days ago
I'm not interested in engaging with bad faith gotcha-style communication like this.

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Beside that, you do realize that this is merely an ad for that GIS provider consultancy thingy that can sell you actual swiss maps, right?

I mean judging by your career in adtech. Uh Yeah anyway.

[–] jnovek 3 days ago
“I'm not interested in engaging with bad faith gotcha-style communication like this.”

It’s not that, it’s an effort to get you to drop into system 2 and think about all the steps it probably took to put this together.

“Beside that, you do realize that this is merely an ad for that GIS provider consultancy thingy that can sell you actual swiss maps, right?”

Yes, I do. I’m not buying their product, selling it or in any way interested in it. I’m just pointing out that your dismissive comment about someone else’s work sucks.

“I mean judging by your career in adtech. Uh Yeah anyway.”

Case-in-point. Stay classy!

Edit: as I’m reading other replies in this thread, I’m finding that I had no idea how sophisticated tools for Minecraft are.

This could’ve been an opportunity to teach someone something cool like your sibling post did, but you opted to be a jerk instead.

Maybe take a sec to examine that.

[–] hypfer 3 days ago
I have taken the sec and concluded - just like before it - that teaching is effort and energy is finite.

If bad behavior is validated by more good faith teaching, then we consequently just see more bad behavior in the future.

If you're genuinely interested in positive exchange, don't kneejerk gotcha people. Or, if you're not, don't complain like this.

[–] jnovek 3 days ago
Once again, the “bad faith” thing is something you’re manufacturing.

I have said nothing in bad faith, I genuinely believed you were dumping on something that a person put real work into. I was defending what I believed was someone’s hard work at the time.

You chose to interpret that in the most negative way you could and then chose express that negative interpretation by insulting me.

I suggest that you continue to examine your attitude; based on your previous result, I think you should take a few hours this time because a few seconds clearly wasn’t enough.

[–] hypfer 3 days ago
Huh? Insult?
[–] jnovek 3 days ago
“I mean judging by your career in adtech. Uh Yeah anyway.”
[–] aacid 3 days ago
Art is subjective, you not liking it doesn't mean it is bad. You just do not like it and that is ok.
[–] hypfer 3 days ago
I did not say that I wouldn't like it.