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points by Vaushite 4 days ago | 0 comments
Since they have actual consumer protection laws down there, they will refund all those deposits. Either voluntarily, or by force.
[–] vrighter 4 days ago
what about lost interest? 7 years' worth
[–] bathtub365 3 days ago
If those customers wanted to get interest they would have invested their money.
[–] HaZeust 3 days ago
This comment makes apology for grifting, and a good case for bad-faith dialogue - whether to troll, to be unreasonably contrarian, or otherwise.

They gave their money for a Cybertruck, and the liquidity from those reservations was most likely use to posture company assets/P&L, earn interest in a treasury, and whatever other financial weasel techniques that the lawyers and financiers of the world's first trillionaire - Elon - have in mind to use.

Customers didn't get that, and instead had a hold on their money for reasons and means BEYOND receiving the particular commodity that they offered their money for. Forget the pro-regulation and antitrust crowds being discussed in this comment section, you'd be hard-pressed to find even a Laissez-Faire economically-right individual that sleeps well to that notion.

[–] schappim 3 days ago
Those customers wanted a Cybertruck
[–] guywithahat 3 days ago
As far as I'm aware Tesla has always been very generous with refunds for deposits, even for cars that were produced. For the model 3/y/etc they would let you cancel the deposit if you pre-ordered and just no longer felt like buying it, as long as it didn't enter production yet.
[–] pengaru 3 days ago
What percentage of cybertrash depositors are TSLA hodlers and musk apologists?

I'm pretty confident in saying it's far from zero.

[–] serf 3 days ago
which is even more damning because tesla stock was like 20-25 bucks a pop around when they started those pre-orders and now its 300+

tesla will screw everyone involved, but they shouldn't. those excited early birds were the primary advertising campaigners.

[–] heaney-555 3 days ago
That's not even in question. If you read the article, Tesla already said it will refund the deposits, and give 1 year of FSD, worth AU$1788, to those who order a Model Y or Model 3.
[–] Tadpole9181 3 days ago
I'm confused, Tesla FSD doesn't exist?
[–] wil421 3 days ago
You have to pay for it. I believe it’s only available as a monthly subscription instead of buying it outright.
[–] Tadpole9181 3 days ago
Isn't what's available now a supervised mode that can throw back controls to you and can't handle arbitrary driving?

Since when did "Full Self Driving" not mean full and not mean self?

[–] jfengel 2 days ago
It's more of a "where" than a "when". They call it Tesla Assisted Driving in Europe.

Other countries are more lax about what words mean.

[–] schappim 3 days ago
If you purchased have a Hardware Version 3 in either a 3 or a Y, FSD does not exist in Australia.