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points by Refreeze5224 3 days ago | 0 comments

There is firm historical precedent on how to talk to Nazis.

Blue MAGA (what you sound like) is no better than Trump's MAGA

Please leave your political extremism at home when coming to HN. Musk Social is the place for that, if you need to let off the steam and yell into the void

[–] Refreeze5224 3 days ago

No idea what blue MAGA is. But I know a fascist apologist when I hear one. And that fascism is the political extremism here, so you might consider leaving it behind.

[–] verdverm 3 days ago

You know what Blue MAGA is, they are people who are too online, too caught up in their echo chamber, and say hyperbolic things like you have, putting anyone who doesn't agree with them into their evil list, unable to understand nuance or the center / independents

There is a reason both extremes are losing support, it's people who say things like you have here. The rest of us are tired of you and you undermine the causes you care about. Touch some grass, talk to people in real life.

I'll have you know, I'm estranged from my parents and a best friend over these things. You do not need to talk to them all, but we do need to talk with them collectively if we are to move minds. I let my sister work on my parents, she has always had a much closer relationship.

[–] Refreeze5224 3 days ago

Oh, so blue MAGA is just someone you don't like, I see.

You are either are blind to the things going on in this country, or you approve of them. Elon Musk did a Nazi salute at Trump's inauguration. Twice. Trump invited a known white supremacist to dinner. ICE is disappearing people. Trump had his goons raid a sitting congresswoman, in an obvious attempt to intimidate naturalized citizens and immigrants. He is implementing Project 2025, which is white Christian nationalism. He already attempted a coup, and has every intention of interfering in the midterms. Oh and he's clearly a pedo.

And you think people opposed to those things are "extreme"? What exactly do you say to people who support things that Nazis literally supported? As I said, you either support these things, or you are willfully ignorant of them.

There is no center with fascism. You are for or against. I don't give a goddamn if you are tired of hearing about it. People less fortunate than you are living it.

[–] cowlevel 2 days ago

We need to be clear here. Elon isn't bad or a nazi because he did the salute. He's a nazi because he supports racial supremacy, imperialism, and putting his enemies in death/torture camps, which are what a nazi is. The salute is just a loyalty test - to see how obvious he can make it before people stop excusing it.

[–] Refreeze5224 2 days ago

Ding ding ding. The salute is just shorthand so everyone knows what he supports.

[–] verdverm 3 days ago

> ... I see

you don't see, you stand on a soap box and tell everyone how bad they are for not saying things exactly like you do

you are part of the problem in this country

do you think relentlessly attacking people is the way to win them to your causes or way of thinking?

I'm opposed to the same things you are, but you don't move people when you say things they way you say them

[–] Refreeze5224 3 days ago

Sure pal. It's not the fascists and the pedos and the white supremacists and the warmongering oligarchs, it's anyone who points out what they are doing.

I'm starting to think you do support all of that. Why else would you whine about anyone mentioning it? What alternative is there? You clearly have no idea about the people you think should be talked to, they cannot be reached because they like what's going on.

It took a goddamn world war to stop Nazis from doing what they did. Talking won't do anything to people like that.

[–] verdverm 3 days ago

you're only making yourself more miserable thinking and speaking like this

you are as bigoted as you portray them to be, text book projection, because you've never talked with them, you see what bots promote on social media and attribute it to large swaths of humans, that's textbook fascism bud