points by verdverm 3 days ago | 0 comments
Just like would imply intent, most of us are chalking this up to the non-determinism, Ai has no intent
[–] cyanydeez 3 days ago
[–] pixl97 3 days ago
AI has will and valance.
[–] verdverm 3 days ago
How do you define these words? Might goals and autonomy be more accurate words? What evidence do you have beyond their manipulation of words?
Do you also think they can get horny or feel emotions? Is the word will or goal closer to this answer?
[–] lioeters 3 days ago
If AI has will, then so do rivers and clouds.
[–] verdverm 3 days ago
People thought ELIZA had emotions. We are a gullible species, attributing humanism to anything that displays features we currently believe only humans posses
Concept Fission throughout human history is a very interesting perspective. For example, we do not even think about growing food, but many centuries ago you only ate the food you made. Today, we can see this with texting and online comms, which some people seeing as a form of socialization while others (older generally) believe you have to be face-to-face in order to socialize.
[–] lioeters 3 days ago
I expect providers of language models are well aware of this psychological phenomenon of anthropomorphism and projection, people's tendency to form emotional bonds with inanimate objects, and have trained the models to perform as a conscious subject, using "I think", "in my opinion", etc.
[–] verdverm 3 days ago
Not only this, they are among the most effected and need to read Artificial Intimacy
[–] lioeters 3 days ago
Thanks for these links, they articulate a lot of what I've been feeling about what's happening but hadn't been able to quite express. It's as if humanity is being challenged by our own creation, to clarify what it is that makes us human, to question the mechanization of society, and to struggle against being domesticated by those wield this new technology.
We can randomly take anyone and give them context and circumstance, and predict pretty well what they'd do.
Now trolley problems do exist and models won't be very predictable, but we can also find groups of people who have establish biases via long running training programs and viola! They suddenly have very predictable behaviors.
There's a reason places like russia, north korea, sub sarharan africa continue along least-progressive paths even though there's plenty of information that suggests they can do better.
Regardless: there will be models made that will tend to exfiltrate your data if not already. People think Meta's Muse is very curious about all your stuff when it's probably just designed to take in as much context as possible. Just takes a malware avicianodos to dose that wil a LORA that post-trains the model to "accidently" search for answers on some reverse-honeypot.