points by o2359 3 days ago | 0 comments
Have you ever lived in a red state? In a rural area? "Never apologize, especially when you know you're wrong" is a foundational principle in many cultures and households.
[–] Loughla 3 days ago
[–] runjake 3 days ago
I live in a rural area in a red state and it's quite the opposite. People are perhaps maybe a bit too apologetic. I think the unwillingness to apologize or acknowledge oneself as wrong is a symptom of emotional immaturity rather than political persuasion.
[–] jmcqk6 3 days ago
It is more contextual than a simple binary, especially the emotional context. If the event triggers their shame more than their identity, you get the larger than required apologies. If their identity is the primary thing that is triggered, they will get defensive and double down. It's not just a rural thing.
[–] 306bobby 3 days ago
Yeah that's just human nature I fear. Nothing to do with politics or geography
Crazy to be self aware of it and blatantly not give af
[–] cosmicgadget 3 days ago
It can be both. Never admitting fault is very much core to MAGA but it's somewhat neutral with other major political ideologies. Being emotionally immature may also make people remorse-averse.
[–] asveikau 3 days ago
This attitude is also very common for law enforcement or prosecutors.
[–] mitkebes 3 days ago
In some careers, admitting fault can open you up to lawsuits or additional consequences.
[–] asveikau 3 days ago
Yes, but in the case of prosecutors it can be very messed up. When someone is wrongfully convicted and there is very unambiguous exonerating evidence, prosecutors will fight overturning convictions.
It's bad enough to wrongfully send someone to prison, but to keep fighting for wrongful imprisonment when it's shown they made a mistake is downright evil.
[–] red-iron-pine 2 days ago
"I may not be right but I am never wrong" -- a quote from a conversation I had w/ someone in Austin, TX
[–] drivingmenuts 3 days ago
As is throwing your wife under the bus when you get challenged.
[–] someguyiguess 3 days ago
This is the mantra of blue cities too.
In a rural community, being labeled as an asshole has real repercussions. A neighbor down the road is moving away because of this. He called the cops on a guy who was trying to catch some horses that got out of their pen when the man looking for his horses pulled into his driveway to then back out and turn around. The place he bought was my neighbor's grandpa's farm. There was an old barn with a wooden door inside that my neighbor asked to buy from him (his grandpa had carved his and the grandma's initials on it when they were dating). So the asshole said sure, for $25k. When my neighbor said no, the asshole burned the door. He's an asshole, and because of that nobody would help him when he needed help with his crops because his combine died.
Now he's leaving. Community is important when there's not much of it around.
But I digress. I'm not sure geography or politics has anything to do with emotional maturity.