points by pfdietz 3 days ago | 0 comments
The temperature swing can be much greater than 100 C. Heat can be extracted as a wave passing through the store, then heat added back by reversing the flow. It would operate like a counterflow heat exchanger.
View another way: if we hook several piles in series, then lukewarm air from a first mostly discharged pile can be directed into later piles for more heating. In the continuous limit this is the concept I described above.
[–] cyberax 3 days ago
[–] adgjlsfhk1 3 days ago
Realistic designs for this can achieve 450C delta t. Your energy store can store at ~1000C (slightly below rock melting point), and run steam turbines with a hot side of 600C and a cool side of 150C.
Over the season, your sand drops from ~1000 to ~600 (which is fine since your power needs drop in the spring)
[–] cyberax 3 days ago
Sorry, but 1000C is wildly unrealistic. There are no bulk materials that can be used to construct heat exchangers for this kind of environment. 600C is already a stretch.
At 1000C steel will react with _water_.
To be clear, I'm not talking about cooling a small crucible but a structure that is at least 20 meters in size.
[–] pfdietz 2 days ago
At 600 C one can use stainless steel, but things rapidly become expensive and problematic beyond that. 1000 C would require Inconel or something.
[–] pfdietz 3 days ago
That is wrong, and I already explained why.
No, because your steam will be at a lower temperature as you draw down the heat, bringing down efficiency.