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points by michaelbuckbee 2 days ago | 0 comments
Yeah, if you're seen the recent rise in "balcony solar" it's more or less this.

People putting a couple panels up on their patio or whatever and having it charge one of those cooler sized batteries that they then run a few of their devices off of.

I've been thinking about a similar situation for my shed as I'd realized that the entire system would be cheaper than getting a line trenched to it.

[–] nsbk 2 days ago
Im running such system in sunny Valencia and with just two panels I’ve cut my monthly spend in half.

The system is quite smart, it charges the battery up from the grid when electricity is cheap and discharges during peak hours. Legally it’s limited to 800W, but you can set it up to a much higher output.

[–] tbdenney 2 days ago
May I ask what kind of system you are using? I am also in Valencia and would like to deploy a balcony panel kit but as a solar noob I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the options.
[–] nsbk 2 days ago
Definitely! I'm using a Zendure SolarFlow 800 Pro [0] and two solar panels. That unit is the battery and micro inverter all in one. It just plugs into one of your home outlets. I also installed a Shelly power meter [1] that the SolarFlow can talk to and learn about your usage trends, and also prevent it from feeding power back to the grid if you want it to.

The SolarFlow 800 Pro goes for around 500 euros, and good quality solar panels for ~120 each. ~100 for the power meter and ~70 for the brackets to install the panels on. Oh and maybe ~40 for cables.

You can also use the battery as a massive power bank with a 240V outlet on camping trips xD

[0] https://zendure.com/products/solarflow-800-pro [1] https://shellyspain.com/shelly-pro-em-50.html

[–] w3ll_w3ll_w3ll 2 days ago
In Italy you don't need to declare to the utility a balcony solar system if you are under 350W, even if you conenct it to your own line.

The inverter is smart enough to disconnect from your line if you are not consuming energy, so there is no risk of sending the power back to the distribution line.

[–] tialaramex 2 days ago
> The inverter is smart enough to disconnect from your line if you are not consuming energy, so there is no risk of sending the power back to the distribution line.

I expect what you're talking about is anti-islanding and so it's not interested in what you're consuming locally.

The anti-islanding works by detecting whether it can make a noticeable change to the constant 50Hz (or 60Hz depending on country) AC waveform, if it can that's an artificial waveform made by itself or similar devices in the neighbourhood and so the anti-islanding protection stops delivering power. But if when you try to change the waveform it won't budge, that's because there's say 10GW of much beefier power sources out there keeping it the same shape it always was, so it's OK to generate electricity.

[–] linsomniac 2 days ago
FWIW: This is NOT what "balcony solar" is. See my top level comment clarifying it.
[–] nsbk 2 days ago
Well, it's solar and sits in my balcony sooo...

Just kidding, I know what you mean. I actually started with true balcony solar and evolved into the battery+inverter setup and couldn't be happier