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points by weystrom 2 days ago | 0 comments

Great hardware, but I can't stand MacOS anymore after switching to Linux on home dekstop. KDE is such a breath of fresh air after years of dealing with Apple's idiosyncrasies.

I think I'll keep my Framework 13 Pro preorder.

[–] cosmic_cheese 2 days ago

I’m using KDE on the gaming box I recently transitioned away from Windows as well as on a secondary single-use laptop where Linux has been installed for a while.

It’s not bad, but I find it still to be very much an acquired taste. It’s fine for my usage, where the DE has barely any impact but having been using macOS as my main OS for the better part of 30 years, it would probably drive me insane if I had to shift my main body of computer use to it. It’s not any one thing, but dozens of papercuts that can’t be configured away (I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them) as well as the more Windows-like desktop paradigm.

[–] Matl 2 days ago

> It’s not any one thing, but dozens of papercuts that can’t be configured away

Exactly how I feel about having to use macOS at work, except some of the 'configurations away' are overpriced plugins/third party tools.

[–] cosmic_cheese 2 days ago

Many seem to not want to admit it for some reason, but the truth is that desktop environments are an extremely personal, subjective sort of software. One person's nirvana is another's anathema.

This is why I think it's important that there's a wealth of different desktops available to use that represent a variety of different paradigms, particularly in the context of Linux on the desktop. Desktop Linux represents the ultimate in potential to mold the computer to the user instead of the reverse, and it really bums me out to see suggestions or implications that would-be Linux users should just accept a Windows-ish shape or tiling keyboard-driven shape and stop hoping for something more Mac-like (which as an aside, GNOME is not despite superficial appearances).

[–] alt227 2 days ago

> I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them

At least this is an option with Linux

[–] cosmic_cheese 2 days ago

In theory maybe, but in reality it’s a full-time job keeping up with changes from mainline with big projects like KDE, which isn’t very practical if you need to do other things to keep a paycheck coming in.

[–] alt227 2 days ago

"Claude, update my project to be compatible with the latest KDE changelog"

[–] nozzlegear 2 days ago

Don't forget to add "make no mistakes."

[–] kev009 2 days ago

KDE is really great. I have a Threadripper FreeBSD desktop I do kernel work on and it is such a breath of fresh air compared to my work Mac.

[–] cdelsolar 2 days ago

Yeah I use KDE as well for my desktop and it’s the perfect environment. (Btw I use Arch)

Still I’m very tempted by the new MacBooks. I don’t know of any laptop that is a tenth as good and I don’t want to sit at my desk all day to use a computer.

[–] gosub100 2 days ago

I would buy apple hardware instantly if you could seamlessly install Linux on it just like a PC. Even if you had to "burn a fuse" to permanently detached it from Apples support and ecosystem.

I love and respect what Asahi has done but I want apple to support a turn key, open drivers, everything works, system.

[–] psadauskas 2 days ago

I'm the same. They don't even have to "support" it, just stop doing everything they can to prevent it. Volunteers will support it for them.

[–] tpmoney 2 days ago

Are they really “doing everything they can to prevent it”? The Asahi folks have already talked about how some of the things in the boot loader only make sense to allow non-Apple OSes. On top of the fact that the boot loader itself is unlocked when we know for a fact they know how to lock down a boot loader for their own chips since they do it for iPhones and iPads.

It seems to me like they are indeed just “not supporting” it, to the fullest extent possible.

[–] KerrAvon 2 days ago

this is literally the status quo. have you looked at Asahi Linux?

[–] 100percentjake 2 days ago

I'm a habitual device-swapper and I'm staggered by how... satisfied I am with my 8 year old Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Fedora KDE on it.