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points by GuB-42 3 days ago | 0 comments
Companies that conduct these layoffs don't just lay off developers. The tend to also lay off support, sales, legal, etc... Especially support, a chatbot is all you need right?

And that's how that "layoff Discord" can produce something that can matter to customers. It will be a smaller company, and small companies have a serious advantage when it comes to support: you can get an actual human, maybe even the main dev, he can actually do things rather than transferring you from chatbot to bureaucracy. It doesn't scale, but it may be enough to get a competitor started.

As for connections, you may have inadvertently let go of the guy who has the connections. And you may have fired a perfectly functional team, ready for from clever entrepreneur with connections (who may be one of the fired) to pick up. It is so much of a recognized problem that some big companies hire people just so that their competitors can't have them.

[–] fzeroracer 2 days ago
Who is going to fund these smaller companies? Why do you think this isn't happening right now as we speak? Where are these companies made from these layoff discords in the past two or so years?
[–] GuB-42 2 days ago
What makes you think it is not happening right now? Startups have to come from somewhere, and they don't have to say how they got together, in fact, it would be smart for them to keep that "layoff discord" hidden if it can keep the lawyers attention away.

And we here stories of "guy left big company to make his own startup" all the times. It is a common story for indie video game devs for instance.

[–] fzeroracer 2 days ago
> What makes you think it is not happening right now?

The fact that they don't exist? You have to prove that they exist to make your point, and so far nobody's been able to actually prove their existence. And I'm speaking from direct, professional experience here.

Those stories if you notice are mostly from decades ago, or are from the wealthy csuite deciding to start their own company with rich connections. AI has supposedly accelerated massively in the past two years yet we haven't seen startups appear at that same rate, even with the level of layoffs in the industry. Well outside of AI startups all looking to buy shovels for gold.

[–] dvfjsdhgfv 2 days ago
I know a few, but they don't advertise as "we were laid off so...", it would be incredibly stupid I think.
[–] geodel 2 days ago
> some big companies hire people just so that their competitors can't have them.

True. Also true that this was ZIRP phenomenon predominantly in big tech. And once mass layoffs started in big tech most of those ultra elite engineers/staff either retired or took job at lower pay instead of launching competitors to big tech.