You give up some rights for internal stability and in theory better social benefits.
In America, our social contract allows 10 guilty men to go free rather than imprisoning one innocent.
That's the myth anyway. Back in reality America is rapidly marching towards authoritarian capitalism.
Jump outs , black sites, indefinite detention.
>Naturally the common people don't want war . . . but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or parliament or a communist dictatorship. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
-Hermann Goering
Thus we're always at War. War on Drugs. War on Illegal Immigration. War on Crime. War on you.
So what we've already deported multiple born in the US citizens. This is war!
[–] qup 2 days ago
What are their names?
[–] 999900000999 2 days ago
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/04/23/texas-united-states-...
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/children-who-are-u-s-c...
Indefinite detention for being Hispanic despite being born in America.
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/deportation-effort-ma...
[–] qup 2 days ago
You guys are never able to manage one. That guy is a Mexican national, not an American
The children aren't deported, their parents are. They, of course, get the choice to take their children with them. You don't want to split apart families, right?
Of course #3 isn't a deportation so I didn't even look at it
[–] Rohansi 2 days ago
If they actually have a valid US birth certificate then how can you say that?
[–] qup 2 days ago
They didn't randomly pick on this guy, and they've deported millions of people without deporting a citizen.
[–] Buttons840 1 day ago
At least you recognize that who is and isn't a citizen is no longer determined by law and facts, but by "guys".
[–] Rohansi 2 days ago
[–] 999900000999 2 days ago
A few other examples of full citizens being deported are out there , but your not going to convince certain people with logic.
>Karen, 65, had a British passport and a tourist visa.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton...
Thank God we surrendered all of our basic rights. Anything to stop elderly British women!
[–] qup 1 day ago
Maybe in a few years there will be another one.
I think their track record has enough nines to make any techbro jealous. Even if he were a citizen, which he isn't, his singular deportation was easily worth the result.
Since he's a Mexican citizen, it can barely be called a hardship.
Mexico is a great place, by most accounts.
For criminal matters, sure.
In civil and administrative matters it's the opposite with the decimal moved to the left a couple times.