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points by mschuster91 2 days ago | 0 comments
The remainder of your quote matters more, I think:

> Instead, labor and computing power are being diverted toward a singular “frontier-model effort” led by Pieter Abbeel, director of the Berkeley Robot Learning Lab whose robotics company Covariant was hoovered up by Amazon in 2024. At the time Abbeel joined the tech giant, Covariant’s founders were working on AI models for robots, which lines up pretty well with Amazon’s push to automate everything it possibly can.

Amazon can't hope to compete in the LLM genAI (what is colloquially known as AI anyway) space. That is toast, the race is over for them, too much competition, no way to make money.

But industrial automation? Globally, Amazon employs about 1M people in fulfillment/operations roles, the utter majority of their headcount. If there is one company on this world that has the money and compute capacity to spare for a high performance, real world application of fusion between modern machine learning and robotics, it's Amazon - and to make life easier for Amazon, unlike every other competitor they don't have to pay or partner with another company for real world testing. They can just go and deploy a robot in their warehouse if they want to.

Achieve a breakthrough in a fully automated picker robot, and they can save half a million people on their payroll, if not more, they'd save shrink loss and handling mishaps as well. That is one hell of an opportunity to save money by R&D. And if they patent everything they do, they can lock their competitors out of that technology for a loooong time.

[–] antonvs 20 hours ago
You make several good points, but I was responding to "It doesn't make too much sense for Amazon to invest too much of their own money into AI."

They're investing their own money in AI, they're just consolidating that investment.

Beyond that, it requires some mind-reading. A "frontier model" that "automates everything it possibly can" seems to imply a scope beyond just robotics.

Also, even if their initial focus is on robotics, innovations in AI are highly likely to come from that area. It's a frontier that the major LLM companies seem to barely be thinking about, but is very important to truly integrated artificial intelligence. Some AI luminaries have argued that that kind of real-world interaction is an essential component of true intelligence. One of the biggest limitations frontier models have currently is the impedance involved in their interface to the real world.

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