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points by mpalmer 2 days ago | 0 comments

Downvote me if you want, I'm flaunting the guidelines in service of the discourse.

If I may posthumously discipline the horse - when did the suffixes "-native" and "-first" merge in unholy matrimony?

Was it when B2B marketing realized that engineers equated "native" with "best/fastest/simplest solution available"? Or is it even more stupid than that?

[–] xp84 2 days ago

Idk. Honestly native is a good descriptor if you mean “we designed it explicitly for ___” as opposed to “we realized last quarter that ___ was the new cool thing, so we bolted it awkwardly onto our product”

[–] mpalmer 1 day ago

Native already had very specific meaning to technologists. Seems to me the industry is trading on the existing credibility of "things that are native"

[–] BobbyTables2 2 days ago

I also hate them, along with “go to market” and “customer focused”.

I like your origin idea, but “cloud-native” is practically an oxymoron. Somehow taking a simple native application and perverting it to the cloud with added layers of abstraction in both the client and the server is somehow “cloud native”?

Makes downtown New York seem like “natural living”.