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points by Markoff 1 day ago | 0 comments

more like 46 dead already

so much for European safety, now compare it to volumes on Chinese HSR and number of deaths there compared to Spain

edit: inconvenient truth for downvoters?

50 according one of the biggesr Spanish newspapers, just open the homepage, you can read 50 even in Spanish

https://www.abc.es

so thanks everyone for downvotes just because you use slow news sources or deny the truth EU high speed trains are extremely dangerous compared to China on deaths/volume

[–] _heimdall 1 day ago

No you likely got downvotes for claiming the yet to be known number of deaths.

I know there have been other Spanish train crashes in recent years but does you're pointing to all of Europe. Source?

[–] Markoff 1 day ago

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/spain-train...

also one of the 3 major czech stations reporting at least 46

https://tn.nova.cz/zpravodajstvi/clanek/660035-srazka-rychlo...

if you open one of the biggest newspapers in Spain they report already 50 dead

https://www.abc.es

So thanks for giving me downvotes just because you use outdated news sources!

[–] _heimdall 1 day ago

The pompous snark likely won't help if you're concerned with down votes, but that's for the sources.

That leaves the Europe claims, as it stands your comparison would be Spanish railways vs Chinese.

[–] embedding-shape 1 day ago

> if you open one of the biggest newspapers in Spain they report already 50 dead

Which one, El Pais? ABC is American, not sure why you'd claim this is a Spanish newspaper. What Czech TV stations report also feels not so relevant.

Here you have an actual news article from an actual Spanish newspaper: https://english.elpais.com/spain/2026-10-28/at-least-10-peop...

[–] _heimdall 1 day ago

To be fair, they linked to abc.es which is a Spanish site.

[–] Markoff 1 day ago

> ABC is American, not sure why you'd claim this is a Spanish newspaper.

I have no words for stupidity of some commenters here...

"ABC (Spanish: [aˈβeθe]) is a Spanish national daily newspaper. Along with El Mundo and El País, it is one of Spain's three newspapers of record."

"ABC was first published in Madrid on 1 January 1903[1][2] by Torcuato Luca de Tena y Álvarez-Ossorio.[3][4] The founding publishing house was Prensa Española, which was led by the founder of the paper, Luca de Tena.[4] The paper started as a weekly newspaper, turning daily in June 1905.[5] In 1928, ABC had two editions, one for Madrid and the other for Seville.[4][6] The latter was named ABC de Sevilla.[4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(newspaper)

"ABC is the longest-running national newspaper in Spain. With clear roots in its founding values, it constantly evolves, adapting to technological innovations and social changes to offer the best information offer"

https://www.abc.es/contacto/quienes-somos.html

It is also 4th biggest in Spain by circulation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Spain

[–] bflesch 1 day ago

Don't forget that several countries such as russia are waging hybrid warfare against the EU, there have been frequent sabotage acts against rail lines and cargo shipments. China is currently not targeted by russian hybrid warfare, and the US does not have a functional high speed rail system at all.

[–] VulgarExigency 1 day ago

Blaming Russia for a train crash in Spain is a level of psychosis I had never seen before.

[–] darkarmani 1 day ago

Wait to you hear people claiming that Russia is invading Ukraine! Why would Russia murder women and children? Definitely psychosis!

[–] ted_bunny 1 day ago

Right? Clearly it was Israel.

[–] bflesch 1 day ago

    Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem ('argument directed at the person'), is a rhetorical tactic of attacking the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. 

    This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

[–] dmpk2k 1 day ago

What concrete evidence do you have that this crash, or the one earlier this year, was caused by the Russians?

You must have an incredibly high P(h)...

[–] thisismyanon2 1 day ago

Acela was pretty successful at locking pax in the toilets.

[–] 233mhz 1 day ago

This Russian paranoia is more damaging than actual Russian operations at that point...

French riots? Russia

Spain train accident? Russia

Right wing party wins? Russia

Rainy weekend? Russia