points by an0malous 1 day ago | 0 comments
A subtle form of propaganda is choosing what to call legitimate or not, since there’s really no first principles reason for any legitimacy
[–] debugnik 1 day ago
I'd rather talk about whether the protests were "genuine" rather than "legitimate". Riots usually escalate from prior peaceful protests, in which protestors claim specific concerns and political factions get involved. None of that seems to have happened here, it was zero to teens rioting.
[–] darkwater 1 day ago
Yes, there are.
A popular protest (and even riots!) should come entirely or at least in the vast majority from a sentiment spread across the people. If it's 500 youngsters that come out of the blue following a campaign orchestrated most probably by a foreign state actor, then it's not legitimate.
Yes, we could start doing verbal and mental gymnastics about how an external actor could be legitimately interested to try and drive the political landscape of a country one month before elections, sure. But it's not the point here.
[–] ourmandave 1 day ago
Recent studies have shown that performing mental gymnastics could delay the onset of dementia.
> there’s really no first principles reason for any legitimacy
Do you mean in this case, or are you making a blanket statement about the nature of morality and power?