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points by Tryk 1 day ago | 0 comments
Unions represent the interest of a large group of people, they arrive at policy through debate and consensus.

Allowing people to nominate representatives to argue policy is the foundation of representative democracy.

[–] reliabilityguy 1 day ago
> Unions represent the interest of a large group of people, they arrive at policy through debate and consensus.

Well, in this case, how come preventing access to healthcare to NYS residents is in the interest of the teachers? And, why would teachers think that they are the only ones who deserve good health care?

Unless… the unions have no feedback mechanism to ensure that they operate the way you think they operate, and they do what any other politician does — they want to stay in power I exchange for keeping just enough of the voting base like you more than the next guy. So, in this case, it’s perfectly reasonable for a union leadership to fight this law — it simply a preservation of power thing.

[–] Tryk 1 day ago
>Well, in this case, how come preventing access to healthcare to NYS residents is in the interest of the teachers? And, why would teachers think that they are the only ones who deserve good health care?

I am not familiar with the particulars, but I am sure there is information published by the union explaining their position in more detail.

I reject your suggestion that I am ignorant how unions operate. I have been a member of a union for many years. Larger decisions are decided by voting.

Like democracy, unions are not perfect. But historically unions have been effective at negotiating rights for workers (weekends, 8hour workdays etc.)

I would argue they are one of the few ways labour has been able to impact policy and law.

[–] reliabilityguy 1 day ago
> I reject your suggestion that I am ignorant how unions operate. I have been a member of a union for many years.

I was a member of a union as well.

> Larger decisions are decided by voting.

After they went through the filter of the leadership, either via the “bargaining committee” or any other form of delegation, selection to which can be based on votes or appointments.

You can Google yourself how teacher unions opposed NYS health care bill, and why they deemed it necessary to justify their position with “protecting the fought for benefits” among other things.