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points by breakwaterlabs 1 day ago | 0 comments
The near-universal use of TLS and the absurd ceremony we go through to ship root CAs everywhere is all premised on the idea that MITMs are not terribly difficult.

The entire reason one can rest easy as they connect to their coffee shop's WPA2-PSK network, is the security provided by TLS.

And if you don't think an ISP or agency would abuse this if it could be done undetectably then you haven't been paying attention these last 20 years (hence why DoH is now a thing).

[–] yonatan8070 1 day ago
Even a simple rouge AP is enough to become a MITM for this.
[–] itintheory 1 day ago
Why is the color of the access point relevant?
[–] yonatan8070 1 day ago
TIL rouge means red in French

Either way, I mean rouge in the sense of an AP that uses the same SSID and password as the AP of a coffee shop or office to have devices automatically connect to it without their users noticing.

[–] ButlerianJihad 1 day ago
In English, rouge is a type of makeup.

“Rogue” is a completely different word. Rogue access point.

[–] yonatan8070 1 day ago
My apologies. Thanks for the correction
[–] zdp7 1 day ago
Da Red goez fasta. Hence the router beats the non red router to the punch.