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points by lovich 1 day ago | 0 comments
No, they are single individuals who have more speech than me via dollars. They are groups of people. I may have problems with particular unions or particular actions but they’re a million times better than a single illegal immigrant being able to manipulate politics on his own whims.
[–] reliabilityguy 1 day ago
You have this view, and it’s your right.

I care about outcomes, and I do not give unions any more slack or good will just because they are “troops of people”. They do shitty things too, and the results are bad for everyone involved. So, what’s the difference? There is none.

[–] lovich 1 day ago
Yea, I actually believe a bunch of people agreeing with an action has a difference in quality vs one oligarch or king getting to unilaterally decide.

They may end up doing shitty things but the group has buy in from a lot more people than one asshole deciding how we get to live our life.

[–] reliabilityguy 1 day ago
>Yea, I actually believe a bunch of people agreeing with an action has a difference in quality vs one oligarch or king getting to unilaterally decide.

This is a false dichotomy.

> They may end up doing shitty things but the group has buy in from a lot more people than one asshole deciding how we get to live our life.

Well, a group of teachers in a union decided for the whole state that they (the teachers) deserve health insurance more than the rest of the state.

I understand that for some people it's fine because their team wins. I am not one of those, I am for outcomes that benefit the most, and not select few that managed to sway power just because they are teachers.

[–] lovich 1 day ago
> > Yea, I actually believe a bunch of people agreeing with an action has a difference in quality vs one oligarch or king getting to unilaterally decide.

> This is a false dichotomy.

no, its my fucking opinion. I didnt say it was fact. You see the word "believe" in that text?

[–] reliabilityguy 1 day ago
I don’t need to see a word believe. Beliefs are not based on rational arguments, and your arguments are irrational, so no need to use specific words, I can infer from between the lines.