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points by lysace 1 day ago | 0 comments

It looks like some reddit mods on a power trip. Zero actual evidence presented.

Edit: Now there is something here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1xhf6qp/comment/19...

Is it a power trip stemming from a technical misunderstanding (archive.today exploited to deliver malware =/= archive.today attempting to deliver malware) or is it something else? In any case, reading the comments on reddit, seems like the mods are going out of their way to appeal to hysterics.

Unbelievable that the comment asking for evidence sits at -24 upvotes in that thread as of now. https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1xhf6qp/archivetod...

[–] mahboi 1 day ago

Seems like the moderators don't know what's going on and are blacklisting it out of abundance of caution. Cause whether the malware comes from the archived site or the archiver itself, it means the archiver isn't safe in a way. Which is fine. It's just ridiculous that someone is asking for details and getting ostracized as a result.

[–] avidruntime 1 day ago

I disagree with your characterization of that the mods don't know what's going on.

The moderators seem to be making it quite clear: they do know what is going on and the onus is not on them to prove it, only to notify actions have been taken in response. https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1xhf6qp/archivetod...

This attitude is extended when someone else asks a question about evidence, instead of replying to the question, the moderator sarcastically calls out the commentor for posting in the sub for the first time: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1xhf6qp/archivetod...

The moderator conflates questions about evidence and requests for more details as "making demands" https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1xhf6qp/archivetod...

Its unusual and arguably suspicious because this attitude is antithetical to the stated point of the thread: To make a PSA to the community. They've also limited the comment section to only flaired users, which seems quite unusual given that this thread is ground-zero for a newsworthy claim.

[–] mahboi 1 day ago

Eh, still think simplest explanation is most likely here, which is that there's no secret motive, but the mods and some users over there are just dumb. I don't mean because they're nontechnical or don't have randomly specific web knowledge (one of them actually does), it's about how they responded to people.

[–] avidruntime 1 day ago

Now that the evidence is shared and reproducible, I agree with you. This should be an embarrassing moment for the r/seattle mods, but I somewhat doubt it will be. Glad a more level headed conversation found its way to HN.

[–] Arainach 1 day ago

What's to be embarassed? These are busy community moderators, not whitehat hackers. They don't owe anyone a writeup of technical vulnerabilities. They owe the community clear communication of rule changes and most people expect explanation of why rules were changed, and they delivered both.

[–] mahboi 1 day ago

They did actually made a technical claim, which is fine, but then when someone said this is serious and asked for details, they responded with attitude and defensiveness. The mods don't need to be white-hat hackers, and even if they were, they're still dumb. They could've just said, all we know at the moment is we kept getting redirected to this malware site, so we're blocking this.

The craziest part is the guy asking even apologized, probably cause he was getting downvoted too much and actually cares about appeasing them.

[–] jrflowers 1 day ago

> This should be an embarrassing moment for the r/seattle mods, but I somewhat doubt it will be.

Imagine the shame of blocking the spread of malware before attempting to appease somebody that’s falsely accusing of you hysterics.

Every day I wake up and shake my head that another mod on the internet did something without my, the Grand Regent of Online, say so

[–] tyrabound 1 day ago

As much effort that has been put into trying to subjugate and control archive.today, it makes me immediately leery of believing any of this was some kind of deliberate thing on behalf of archive.today.

It’s not to say it’s not so, but people are fools to just chomp down on the bait.