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points by rowanG077 1 day ago | 0 comments

TBH this is one of the things that will be a clear downgrade imo. Weight reductions and thinness are not free. The Pro and Max chip version are already over powered for the cooling system the current macbook pros have. And now they are further cutting into the laptop...

[–] stetrain 1 day ago

The display change itself likely accounts for some of the thickness and weight reduction. The mini-LED backlight grid on the previous displays wasn't nearly as thin or light as an OLED panel.

[–] rowanG077 1 day ago

I hope so. I just see Apple going down the same dark path they used to before the M series laptops.

[–] saturn8601 1 day ago

I heard that was a result of them designing for certain thermal envelopes ahead of time and Intel then delivering chips that didn't meet the specs they were promised. Not sure is this is what happened though so take with a grain of salt.

If this was the case, one the one hand they should be criticized for releasing such bad laptops on the market but if they had already decided on developing their own silicon then maybe it made sense to just accept that some generations of Macbook were going to have thermal issues and focus all efforts on the future.

[–] rowanG077 1 day ago

That would be excusable for a generation of macbooks. Not over multiple generations.

[–] saturn8601 1 day ago

Correct me if I am wrong but the heat problems were essentially Intel chips in the mid to late 2010s right? They are all essentially the same chip design with small window dressing added each year. The underlying problem is the same. Old design that suffered from Intel's issues in their fabs.

[–] rowanG077 1 day ago

Yes, but there was ample time for Apple to re-design the thermal system of their macbooks. Instead they kept releasing extremely thermally limited devices year after year.

[–] saturn8601 1 day ago

This was addressed in my second comment. I am agreeing with you there. Jony Ive lost his job partially because of this I suspect.

[–] twoodfin 1 day ago

By that time they had clearly made the decision to invest in their own CPUs and platform architecture.

[–] stetrain 1 day ago

It's a reasonable concern and something to look out for in reviews and user reports. Hopefully they aren't repeating that mistake.

[–] ksec 1 day ago

Not sure why this is downvoted but it is a valid concern. I will wait and see some thermal testing as someone mentioned on new cooling design which I can't find on the page just yet.