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points by smileybarry 1 day ago | 0 comments

Not anymore, a lot of apps (from browsers to the system UI) adapt to whether you have a touch screen and whether you use it. For example, Windows Explorer and Edge (and Chrome) still use (relatively-)compact widgets on touchscreen-less computers.

[–] kbolino 1 day ago

At 100% scaling with "Compact view" on, Windows 11's File Explorer takes 135 pixels to get from the top of the titlebar to the top of the content. The same dimension in Windows 7 is 92 pixels. That's almost 50% vertical space bloat for no discernible benefit.

[–] nagaiaida 1 day ago

unless i misunderstand the implication as to their behavior on touchscreenful computers, this would seem to poorly address the concern upthread of explicitly expecting the touchscreen hardware, and thus the concomitant software annoyances, to become effectively unavoidable

[–] Grombobulous 1 day ago

Are you making this point from the context where you’ve never tried a touch screen computer?

This isn’t an unimplemented theory. You can head over to Best Buy right now and see what it’s like to use a touch screen laptop.

I feel like all this debate is taking place in an odd vacuum where a lot of us are talking about a bunch of potential problems with having a touch screen on a computer and all these problems are already resolved.

Maybe it’s similar to the whole iPhone duo thing where Apple users are just discovering all the caveats of a foldable phone, but we’ve already gone over all of it with competitors.

[–] cjarrett 1 day ago

In general the vast majority of folks that make these comments are exactly from that viewpoint. It was a valid concern a decade ago--right now it just makes them uninformed.