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points by preg_match 1 day ago | 0 comments

What matters is if they’re separate programs or not. They’re separate programs. Systemd is, like, 25 different pieces of software. It’s not 25 objects that are dynamically loaded or something. No, it’s 25 different pieces of software.

Most distributions only use some of them, and the “some” set is different from distro to distro. Many distros swap parts out. And some distros only use systemd-resolved.

Systemd is, legitimately, well divided. Most of the complaints against systemd are from people who know basically nothing about systemd.

[–] cowlevel 1 day ago

Why does it matter that it's 25 binaries on disk? Surely the logical structure matters way more than the filesystem structure. Is Windows 3000 pieces of software because there are 3000 executables in system32?

[–] preg_match 1 day ago

It matters if they're separate programs or not, and they are. You can pick and choose, and distros do. Systemd is not a monolith, it just isn't.

[–] cowlevel 1 day ago

Is Windows 3000 pieces of software?

How many pieces of software is nginx or Apache, where every feature is an optional plugin?

[–] gf000 22 hours ago

Are they working together with interdependencies or not?

E.g. explorer.exe is not replaceable on windows so the display server and that is one software. (The kernel is NOT though, because it can surely run in a headless way). It's not that hard of a concept..

[–] cowlevel 21 hours ago

the display server and explorer.exe on windows are much more separated than systemd-init and systemd-journald...