points by CountSessine 1 day ago | 0 comments
I made this point below, but Windows 10 still doesn't have the display-real-estate efficiency of Windows 7. Windows 10 wastes all kind of screen space on large, flat surfaces that a non-touch-screen user will never use. Windows 7 wasn't as pretty as Windows 10, but it was better at displaying information.
So actually, you are harmed by this decision every day you use a Windows 10/11 laptop. You live with this every day. You just don't know what you're missing.
[–] bityard 19 hours ago
UI designers think that an interface should look like an art project rather than a tool, and that discoverability and information density are bugs to be squashed.
[–] QuarterReptile 19 hours ago
Windows 8.1 and 10 were both better than 7.
[–] justsomehnguy 1 day ago
Let's try to imagine a situation when Win10+ UI has "the same display-real-estate efficiency of Windows 7".
Would it change anyhthing? No. Because developers of the programs what are not part of Windows aren't keen on keeping "the same efficiency". Audacity 4, Thunderbird are good examples of a bad interface - and they did it disregarding the OS UI.
[–] pmontra 1 day ago
I've been using Thunderbird since I don't even remember when and I never noticed that it's got a bad interface, unless when they broke manually sorting folders and fixed it years later. It's got the UI that a mail client has to have. GMail does have a bad UI. Sometimes I don't understand where a message ends and where a message starts. Luckily I don't have to use it.
[–] bityard 18 hours ago
You aren't going to like what's coming down the pike for Thunderbird: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.0/whatsnew...
They are basically throwing away the existing UI asking with its decades of refinement in favor of something that looks like what you'd get if apple mail and outlook had a disfugured child.
But even if I accept your premise, I’ll remind you that Windows 7 came out 19 years ago. I didn’t exactly own a 27” 4K monitor in 2009, and a 14” or 16” screen laptop in 2009 would not have been thin and light like it is today. 2009 was like “my bezels are over a half inch wide” era.
The OS is fully scalable as well. You can just make it smaller in a very granular way. Windows 7 wasn’t capable of that.