Yes, I agree. Posts with a lot of comments should also not be flagged. Maybe that's an even better metric. I don't know why your comment was flagged, it seemed pretty reasonable to me!
> Posts with a lot of comments should also not be flagged.
Sometimes a lot of comments on a post are a sign that the post was extremely interesting and has generated equally interesting discussion, and sometimes it's entirely the opposite signal; said post was a "trigger" topic generating a pointless flame-war that nobody in their right mind wants to read or participate in. The numbers alone aren't the whole picture, but only a small detail that signals something is happening there. This is one of those situations where LLMs/"AI" (love/hate it) could actually be a huge help, classifying particularly "active" posts into useful "buckets" by type.
> nobody in their right mind wants to read or participate in. T
Except for all of the people commenting and up voting! There's zero downside to turning off flags there. If you don't want to read it or participate, you don't have to.
The culture of having active discussions killed is way more frustrating and discouraging.
> The culture of having active discussions killed is way more frustrating and discouraging.
One concern I do have with the whole thing about killing active discussions when they're just trolling and flame-wars is that those people will then seek out other threads to invade because the one they were busy with is no longer available to them. Perhaps some form of magic "shadow ban" so that they can still see and interact with the thread if they so desire? Keep 'em busy so that they do less damage elsewhere?
Shadow bans are toxic and when they find out they've been shadow banned, they'll go to war with the site, because nothing is more enraging than being treated like that.
The answer is to just let people talk about what they want to talk about. One person's "flame-war" is another person's meaningful conversation. No one is forced to read or participate in threads, and those people shouldn't have the ability to kill a conversation for those who do.
If 100000 people want to cast an argument into the void, they can do that. It doesn't harm any other discussion going on elsewhere on the site. I'm posting this comment beneath a flagged/dead comment in an article labeled [dupe] and I'm okay with that.
[–] slowin 1 day ago
[–] blooalien 1 day ago
Sometimes a lot of comments on a post are a sign that the post was extremely interesting and has generated equally interesting discussion, and sometimes it's entirely the opposite signal; said post was a "trigger" topic generating a pointless flame-war that nobody in their right mind wants to read or participate in. The numbers alone aren't the whole picture, but only a small detail that signals something is happening there. This is one of those situations where LLMs/"AI" (love/hate it) could actually be a huge help, classifying particularly "active" posts into useful "buckets" by type.
[–] slowin 1 day ago
Except for all of the people commenting and up voting! There's zero downside to turning off flags there. If you don't want to read it or participate, you don't have to.
The culture of having active discussions killed is way more frustrating and discouraging.
[–] blooalien 18 hours ago
One concern I do have with the whole thing about killing active discussions when they're just trolling and flame-wars is that those people will then seek out other threads to invade because the one they were busy with is no longer available to them. Perhaps some form of magic "shadow ban" so that they can still see and interact with the thread if they so desire? Keep 'em busy so that they do less damage elsewhere?
[–] slowin 14 hours ago
The answer is to just let people talk about what they want to talk about. One person's "flame-war" is another person's meaningful conversation. No one is forced to read or participate in threads, and those people shouldn't have the ability to kill a conversation for those who do.
[–] cowlevel 1 day ago
Post: I think Hitler was good [+51 unflaggable]
Comments: no he wasn't x100000
[–] fhdkweig 1 day ago