points by cush 21 hours ago | 0 comments
It’s funny reading takes like this from software engineers that think the only way to meet people is at school, work, and in… IRC chatrooms...what? People do go outside and socialize in other places.
[–] dang 12 hours ago
[–] NewsaHackO 21 hours ago
Yea, also it may be just his own personality, but it seems like he is really passive when it comes to human interactions. It’s like he doesn’t consider that there are people who are extroverted and want to talk to others. I remember in college people who would actually knock on random people’s doors to introduce themselves to them. I know he will say that it’s because it’s school, but they struck be as the type that would do that sort of thing anywhere, even if it was an apartment building instead of a dorm.
[–] cush 20 hours ago
Honestly this level of antisocial introversion is probably the product of being highly intelligent and being fed through a school system that pushes kids to study alone for tests rather than problem solve in groups
[–] watwut 20 hours ago
Plenty of highly intelligent extroverts out there.
[–] cush 20 hours ago
There are. Did I say there wasn’t?
I’m just saying some children are highly encouraged to isolate themselves, and it’s ironic that the blog post thinks that AI replacing these isolating activities (coding, chat rooms, etc) will isolate people. It will likely give people the space to touch grass
[–] planb 21 hours ago
Came here to write this. Also: Just because someone else (in this case AI) does something professionally does not mean that I cannot do it as a hobby with other people. I can order tasty food from uncountable different restaurants and still enjoy cooking with friends.
[–] veltas 21 hours ago
It’s funny reading takes like this from software engineers that think the only way to meet people is at skateparks, and in… libraries...what?
[–] mschuster91 21 hours ago
> People do go outside and socialize in other places.
They increasingly don't, because the places allowing to do so ("third places") keep on disappearing. Turns out someone needs to pay for stuff like a skate park or a library, and when the taxes disappear, so do the third places.
[–] tester756 21 hours ago
That's just US perspective? Because I don't feel like that in Eastern/Central EU
[–] Myzel394 21 hours ago
Hackernews is always way too centered around the USA unfortunately and people keep forgetting other countries exist lol
[–] mschuster91 16 hours ago
I'm German for what it's worth, we are hitting the same issue thanks to austerity.
[–] whycombilater 21 hours ago
USA / Russia
Same same
[–] cush 20 hours ago
While that may be true it’s completely unrelated to AI. AI could free up time to socialize
[–] sda2 5 hours ago
AI could also result in deflation of wages, such that people have to work more than ever to make ends meet.
[–] jurgenburgen 21 hours ago
That’s a political choice.
[–] thin_carapace 21 hours ago
perhaps we could discuss socialization rates in the west over the past few decades, to illuminate the human social trajectory in an environment of technologization? or, perhaps we could talk about the ways that kids behave after exposure to short form content like tik tok during their nascent stages of development. the progression of community volunteering rates could potentially be another great point to discuss. i dont think my perspective is entirely relevant here, but i go to the park and it feels very empty nowadays.
[–] darkwater 21 hours ago
What you say can be in the right direction, but that doesn't mean that the linked piece has a really, really oh but REALLY narrow perspective, even among the developer/HNer type of person. Because not even for the average person here the only way to meet people is due to the code they (or other) write.
[–] thin_carapace 21 hours ago
for a forum of programmers i find it remarkably amusing how difficult it seems to discuss classes instead of instantiations
[–] darkwater 20 hours ago
The original poster actually talk about their singular experience, rather than a general overview. Even worse, they apply their feeling about how the future would be on their own past experience, arriving to the conclusion that the future will then be bleak.
[–] thin_carapace 8 hours ago
so you're saying the author's personal experience is invalid or otherwise cannot be extrapolated to a wider concept ?
It makes a big difference for the kind of conversation we're trying for here.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html