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points by thenewnewguy 17 hours ago | 0 comments
This is a massive dodge of the question - do voters not bear some level of culpability for the candidate they choose to vote for?

I'm not talking about candidates reneging on their promises, places that are voting in favor of public transit but got messed up by their ancestors, etc. - I'm talking about people voting today for politicians that are clearly pro-oil and follow through on that.

[–] milch 16 hours ago
Sure, if the guy voted for a pro oil candidate and drives a massive 10mpg lifted diesel truck some of that is surely on him. But there's still the massive media machine owned largely by billionaires, decades and billions of dollars of lobbying and propaganda by the oil and car companies, and foreign interests (some of which sell oil, some of which just want to see the US fail) that influenced him along the way. If we turn it around, how many people would still vote for pro oil candidates if these weren't there?
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