points by 3form 13 hours ago | 0 comments
"Cyber benchmarks, while achieving an average refusal rate of 96.6% on malicious cyber requests, the highest we measure among open models."
I feel like stating the obvious here and hence like I'm missing something. Where is the statistic about not refusing the non malicious requests? I can achieve the same performance with refusing when random(1000) < 967.
[–] kouteiheika 11 hours ago
[–] prophesi 10 hours ago
It's unfortunate, because the security theater performed here detracts from the model's overall cybersecurity performance. And uncensoring has another small hit to performance.
[–] pixl97 13 hours ago
Yea, the problem with maliciousness is intent.
Much like having a hacking tool doesn't mean you're doing anything illegal, attacking a machine doesn't necessarily mean you're committing a crime. I can hack the living shit out of my local network if I want to.
[–] nicce 6 hours ago
Somehow that statement just screams that our model is not useful for security work
[–] ex-aws-dude 8 hours ago
It is kind of comical how things that previously would have been obviously true are now only statistically true
"Our product won't hack you 96.6% of the time"
[–] nikanj 13 hours ago
Nobody cares about that number, because refusals don't lead to company-ending news headlines.
Guardrails on open-weight models is security theater purely to shield whoever released them from a potential PR nightmare.