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points by rdtsc 12 hours ago | 0 comments

> but since they introduced 3rd party models, added more features (now Responses API etc.) and improved their own model, we are quite happy-

Yeah, serving GLM is a pretty good play on their side. I know they have been criticized for it ("so, you're just reselling GLM...") but it seems practical as in it helps EU companies use it.

[–] OezMaster 11 hours ago

How does it help EU companies?

[–] andix 9 hours ago

So they can use GLM from a trusted provider, that is highly committed to respect local laws and regulations.

Just think about a defense contractor. Choosing trustworthy vendors is crucial to them. They can't just use a random provider from Open Router. They need to vet and certify their vendors. If they already have Mistral on the list of approved vendors, they can now just switch to the most recent open weight LLM if Mistral starts serving it.

[–] rdtsc 10 hours ago

They can use the model and the data and requests all stay in the EU region. As opposed to sending to Anthropic, Microsoft or Google. Granted, those companies can assert that data will stay in the EU region too, but they'd have to be believed, which, some may find tricky lately.

[–] vrganj 10 hours ago

Thanks to the CLOUD act, its pretty irrelevant where the data is as long as its owned by a US entity.

The government can just force release, even if it's on European servers.

[–] rdtsc 9 hours ago

In this case it's a EU company serving either an EU built model or a Chinese model. For the Chinese models they are not forwarding the requests to China, the model is still running in EU.

[–] krtkush 9 hours ago

And what if it’s Chinese servers? Like, iCloud stuff but for Chinese nationals in China?

[–] dannyw 7 hours ago

GCBD operates the iCloud China service with Apple, and I imagine Apple, Inc and its associated LEA portal/systems does not have access (otherwise there's no chance China would let iCloud China be a thing).

This is also where the words of law and pragmatic reality intercede.

[–] aDyslecticCrow 9 hours ago

But Mistral is French.

[–] Phelinofist 6 hours ago

I read as GP agreeing with GGP:

> ... As opposed to sending to Anthropic, Microsoft or Google. Granted, those companies can assert that data will stay in the EU region too, but they'd have to be believed, which, some may find tricky lately

CLOUD Act -> "but they'd have to be believed"

[–] T-A 9 hours ago

From the announcement:

Sovereignty does not always require self-hosting; sometimes it just requires deployments that meet your control requirements. For organizations that prefer a managed service, Mistral Large 4 is available through Microsoft Foundry, with private deployment options for Azure developers.

[–] tensor 1 hour ago

Yes, that is an option, but not the only option. Mistral also provides an api that is hosted by an EU company as far as I understand.

[–] walrus01 4 hours ago

There's many EU companies that want to have a contractual relationship with only another EU company and be absolutely assured that the models, the contents of the KV cache, any logging, all access control/credential systems, billing platform, etc are all hosted on EU-company owned hardware located in an EU jurisdiction.

There is a similar thing happening now on a smaller scale for Canadian companies that want to migrate off USA-based platforms for all sorts of SaaS and reasons.