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points by maxloh 13 hours ago | 0 comments
Not really. That definition also requires the training code and training data composition to be open-sourced.

No major Chinese or Western labs satisfy these requirements. The only vendors I can think of that do are Nvidia and Allen AI.

[–] mmargenot 10 hours ago
I'm a little confused by your distinction between vendor and lab. AI2 (Allen Institute for AI) is a western lab and they did release a fully open source model, with open weights, data, and training code (Olmo3).

Their technical report on the release is excellent: https://allenai.org/blog/olmo3

They're a public research institute as opposed to one of the proprietary frontier labs, but they've been very open about the science.

[–] maxloh 10 hours ago
Yeah, I mentioned them in my comment. They're my favorite lab/vendor. Everything is open and reproducible.

It's just that their models were never frontier-level. By major, I meant frontier or popular.

[–] biggestriverman 13 hours ago
K2 horizon is the closest to actually releasing everything that I am aware of https://ifm.ai/blog/k2/
[–] fweimer 13 hours ago
Allen AI imposes further restrictions on their model releases, I think: https://allenai.org/responsible-use
[–] theplumber 13 hours ago
Nobody can do that because they were all trained on stolen content
[–] manyatoms 13 hours ago
I think IBM's Granite LLM are claimed to be trained only on legally-obtained data
[–] theplumber 13 hours ago
Maybe that’s why nobody “heard” about it. It’s funny that we have companies bragging about not using stolen content to train their AI.
[–] vulture916 12 hours ago
Granite is super good small parameter lineup for local tasks.
[–] salad-tycoon 9 hours ago
Also granite is the model my m2 MacBook will be using to run this survival LLM I found on HN: https://www.brangus.io/survival-llm