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points by terabyterex 11 hours ago | 0 comments

Unless, i am missing something they haven't claimed open source anywhere. none of them have claimed open source. open weights has never meant the same thing as open source.

[–] Vinnl 9 hours ago

Open weights was already a weaker term then open source, but this is not even that. "Weights available" feels like an apt description akin to source available.

[–] usef- 8 hours ago

Yes. I do see people describe Kimi models as as open weights all the time, and they have somewhat similar licensing restrictions to this

[–] leni536 8 hours ago

Shareware/freeware?

[–] Vinnl 4 hours ago

Open source: source code available, and can be used for whatever.

Source-available: source code available, but only for viewing, not to make derivatives.

Freeware/shareware: source code not available, but software is free to run.

Not sure what the weights equivalent of that last one is, but I feel like this is more like source-available.

[–] thayne 3 hours ago

It isn't a perfect analogy, but I think the weights of a model are closer to a compiled executable than source code.