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points by lurk2 10 hours ago | 0 comments

It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals. The marginal boost to economic productivity isn’t worth the threat these people pose to national security; the Chinese understand this, so why don’t Americans?

[–] AlecSchueler 10 hours ago

Until recently the US was on the side of international cooperation. It's not only a pity that this has changed but it's sad to see that people are completely forgetting this, as well as seemingly forgetting the incredibly bloody history that we had to endure before embracing the idea of respectful cooperation.

Now China is the grown-up in the room while the US is running around like a maniac in Venezuela, Iran, and wherever else

[–] ballon_monkey 9 hours ago

China who is encroaching on its neighboring countries? Attacking ships in Philippines waters. Yelling at everyone demanding respect while disrespecting everyone around them.

No, China is no more a grownup than the US.

[–] undersuit 9 hours ago

Has China invaded any countries or captured any foreign leaders this year?

[–] wewtyflakes 26 minutes ago

Historically, Vietnam and Tibet, though Taiwan seems on deck to be next.

[–] thesmtsolver2 4 hours ago

Just yesterday

https://www.the-independent.com/asia/india/india-china-borde...

[–] wonnage 4 hours ago

incredible reach

> India and China share a disputed 3,440km (2,100-mile) boundary known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC). This de facto border runs through remote and inaccessible natural paths along the Himalayas, passing through rivers, remote mountains and forest cover. It is ill-defined and its demarcations have remained a source of contention between two neighbours who fought a major war in 1962, in which India suffered a humiliating defeat.

[–] deadnomore 9 hours ago

China adds another dash to their South China Sea claim every other year it seems

[–] throwaway384034 10 hours ago

China is high IQ. It is one of the top countries you will want to brain drain from.

[–] Avicebron 10 hours ago

This is nonsense, China has a massive population, like india. So they have some benefits when it comes to distributions.

[–] Revanche1367 5 hours ago

You're not contradicting anything the poster said. The reason for a lot of Chinese students and workers having high IQs wasn't the point of discussion, the sheer quantity was, and most people can see they have a lot of such people.

[–] throwaway384034 9 hours ago

>It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals.

This is what I was responding to. I'm trying to figure out how it is nonsense because India has a large population.

India already makes up like 70% of H1Bs.

[–] Avicebron 9 hours ago

> It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals.

The US as a whole is accessible to a ton of foreign nationals because there was a push in like the 70s-early 2000s to offshore as much as possible to developing nations and exploit the arbitrage of wage labor back home. That was coupled with a foreign policy that was essentially trying to assimilate the cultures through that trade relation. Obviously China didn't reciprocate that, and many other places didn't either. But the America side of that open door policy (sentiment really) hasn't really gone away, even with the more recent immigration stuff.

I was responding to the claim that "China" or "Chinese as a whole" have higher IQs, that's not really what's happening. Which is why I brought up India, because it's a similar situation, lots and lots of people, plenty of those people are really smart. But it's a measure of a distribution, not really meaningful when talking about the people as whole themselves. Which itself is reductionist.

[–] pixl97 9 hours ago

Why it is nonsense then?

Would you want to spend your time in a nation looking for 2 of their smart people out of 1000 or make national ties so you can get hundreds of smart people out of their billion?

Also internal distributions will not be even, those smart people are far more likely to be clustered.

[–] shimman 9 hours ago

Unlike India tho, China isn't burdened by American Imperialism and suffering from extreme economic poverty.

[–] Avicebron 9 hours ago

I think it's hard to get a good read on China's actual economic situation from the outside. Which, in itself, speaks to larger issues as we would understand them in the West.

[–] analyst74 9 hours ago

There are plenty information about China on the outside, but nobody is paying anyone to push those into your feeds. It doesn't benefit any US entities to paint China in good light, and China largely doesn't market itself to the wider world (maybe to their detriment).

[–] thesmtsolver2 4 hours ago

Hilarious

China ranks 178 out of 180 in press freedom. How are you then getting plenty of information that is accurate?

https://rsf.org/en/2026-rsf-index-press-freedom-25-year-low

[–] Avicebron 9 hours ago

If you have sources I would be curious, even the Chinese language ones I've found have seemed, lacking, for want of a better word.