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points by arjie 9 hours ago | 0 comments

We’re in the tabs v spaces of this era. It will be forgotten. No one debates BSD v Linux. No one remembers SCO. Or whether silverlight will be ported. Or whether an app is available on Linux/Mac. Or whether drivers exist for their hardware. Or whether web standards are adhered to. Or whether you have to use a proprietary compiler.

Everyone thinks AI vs non-AI is a debate but just like all of those, it’ll be meaningless to the engineers of tomorrow.

[–] ahsgq 9 hours ago

Indeed, no one will use AI in two years and the fanboys will be fired. Amazon, Google and Oracle sharply down again today due to clanker overspending.

[–] joshjob42 7 hours ago

I'm a physicist and there is approximately zero chance no one uses AI in two years unless we're all dead. It's a world class mathematician and expert software developer with the capacity to research papers 100x faster than I can, which has given me (like most scientists, an okay programmer at best) to be able to test vastly more ideas and find useful papers etc far faster than I ever could before.

I'm guessing you don't have any tasks in your life that involve coding, math, science, or law if this is your view.

[–] plastic-enjoyer 6 hours ago

Interesting! Do you want to tell us how you do research with AI, and what your workflow is? I've thought about using AI to research papers and find ideas more faster.

[–] ImaCake 8 hours ago

Is this sarcastic or authentic cope? I don't understand how people can still be in denial about LLMs this late in the game.

[–] vlyan 7 hours ago

of course it's authentic. the folx with good politix live in a carefully curated reality where everyone agrees with them or gets silenced.

there's thread on the front page of reddit right now, the usual drivel with a literally who on twitter snarking about 50B spent on Iran war instead of free healthcare. those who'd committed the thoughtcrime of dividing 50b by 342m and suggested that 146 bucks per person doesn't buy much healthcare are downvoted into oblivion.

ai is simultaneously taking everyone's jobs and a bubble that's about to burst.

russia is simultaneously a bankrupt paper tiger on the brink of total collapse and the greatest threat to mankind on the brink of invading every wholesome democracy on earth.

etc etc.

[–] KingMob 2 hours ago

> those who'd committed the thoughtcrime of dividing 50b by 342m and suggested that 146 bucks per person doesn't buy much healthcare are downvoted into oblivion.

I suspect the criticism isn't as absurdly narrow that ALL we have to do to get M4A is swap out the war funding. It's probably people pointing out that the govt wastes plenty of money on immoral and useless things, of which the Iran war is an example.

[–] GlacierFox 8 hours ago

Because you head is firmly stuffed, fingers in ears, in to the software world and you're unable to process the fact these frontier models have barely any use in real life outside of generating code.

[–] Viliam1234 7 hours ago

> barely any use in real life outside of generating code.

Reverse-engineering code.

Finding vulnerabilities.

Reviewing specifications.

[–] GlacierFox 6 hours ago

Barely any use outside of generating code and doing other code related stuff*

[–] jryle70 5 hours ago

Yes, fight! you may win in the end. Who knows, right?

[–] poly2it 7 hours ago

Never mind these technologies having improved exponentially for four years, being able to hill-climb basically any domain you can describe as a goal in text?

[–] GlacierFox 6 hours ago

Hill climb? Fuck you talking about?

[–] KingMob 2 hours ago

Hill climbing is a statistical method for finding maxima in a function. If your function's range is "does stuff well", then hill climbing is equivalent to finding improvements.

Also, Wikipedia's search is free to anyone on the internet.

[–] satvikpendem 6 hours ago

Good thing code can do a lot of things then huh?

[–] GlacierFox 6 hours ago

Of course. Code can do all sorts of things. Huh?

[–] TuxSH 8 hours ago

> Google

Is it not because they have been enshittifying Search for over a decade, then recently lost their de-facto monopoly on Search due to LLMs, with no good new product to show for it?