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points by 1718627440 9 hours ago | 0 comments

I have not stated anything that is specific to Spain in this thread? I do think there is something wrong with the safety culture in Spain, I mean obviously, there was an accident.

> but you can't say that it has ever happened in Japan.

That sounds very unlikely to me, and in fact Wikipedia indicates otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigaraki_train_disaster

[–] wewtyflakes 7 hours ago

That is not a high-speed rail line... so, no?

[–] 1718627440 7 hours ago

Ok, so railway safety for me doesn't stop at the end of high-speed lines. But, maybe Japan does indeed clear the measure you suggested, so congratulations to Japan, I guess?

[–] wewtyflakes 7 hours ago

Yup, so it seems that high-speed rail safety is not an unsolved problem. Wonder what the lessons are? Hmm...

[–] 1718627440 6 hours ago

"Sadly" anything involving safety with humans is never a solved problem, because safety culture needs continuing training and effort.

[–] wewtyflakes 6 hours ago

> I said nothing about "throwing up out hands", this is a current research topic. But you can hardly blame the workers for not using a system, the researchers haven't invented yet.

This you? Who's fault is it then? You said the tech doesn't exist (lets take that at face-value for the sake of your argument), so then if not tech, then what? You're just left with people. So are you saying it is their fault or not? Or is it just nobody's?

[–] 1718627440 5 hours ago

Yes. General safety culture. However asking who is at fault instead of asking how to prevent it from occurring again, is also an indication of a lack of safety culture.

In addition: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50297950 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50293093

[–] wewtyflakes 4 hours ago

You can do both