Maybe they should have released Gemini Carbon for real rather than teasing it.
[–] ticulatedspline 5 hours ago
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[–] deaux 3 hours ago
How? Companies have been trying this for the last 2 decades. Its effectiveness has been rapidly declining.
[–] dabinat 2 hours ago
The demand is there - I just don’t think the revenue streams have been fully figured out yet. Ultimately I think the AI providers will converge on allowing their AI to respond to queries with sponsored suggestions, quite simply because there’s too much money being left on the table to not do that.
Google is making these massive investments because they’re terrified that they’re going to be eclipsed or turn into IBM. But Google has way more of a buffer to play the long game than OpenAI or Anthropic.
[–] CoolestBeans 4 hours ago
The next step is whether data center capex discipline begins filtering to Nvidia and the DRAM semis revenues. At that point pure play companies must drive revenue growth or else.
[–] dyauspitr 6 hours ago
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[–] solid_fuel 3 hours ago
They use LLMs, often have flashy demos, but can't keep things aligned and struggle to keep the models on task. E.g. they have burned a ton of capital and don't have a lot to show for it.
The ones that went all-in on vibe coding are even worse off.
If those startups die, the big inference providers lose a lot of customers.
[–] etempleton 3 hours ago
[–] bushbaba 4 hours ago
A lot of the token spend is circular in nature and f500 has not seen a meaningful revenue or profit improvement from AI.
Sure looks like the dot com bubble.
The web is likely going to layer up soon. As more and more people utilize AI it changes traffic. It's impossible (and undesirable) to keep training with current affairs, LLMS need to go out to the web to find reality and they need to do search in order to get there.
More and more they're going to get blocked from doing so via "human" channels. I predict we're going to get a sub-web. basically MCP but for websites, AI interacts with a sites content through that door, humans use http.
When there's a gold rush sell pickaxes. Forget Gemini, that's a money pit. Google is in a great position to shape that sub-web through chrome and it's current incumbent position as gatekeeper to the web. They'll be selling search deals to all the Big AI agents, indexing the new MCP-like layer so AI can search and interact with site information and blurring the line between your harness and chrome such that browsing the web is more like asking AI for crap and getting pages there in the harness rather than traditional browsing.
before you know it nobody will browse the web the way we do now and no agent harness will function correctly without Google.