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points by josefritzishere 7 hours ago | 0 comments

Based on that 404 Media article I'm done with proton. They've lost their way. https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-i...

[–] k__ 6 hours ago

Damn.

Any good alternatives?

[–] CircuitSeuss 6 hours ago

https://www.tuta.com/ Is the only other major player I am aware of— although they have a significantly smaller product lineup than Proton, and aren’t as viable an alternative to Google for those who want a fully integrated suite. Tuta does Mail and Calendar fairly well, cant speak to their drive product.

The other option is self hosting.

[–] selcuka 5 hours ago

> aren’t as viable an alternative to Google for those who want a fully integrated suite

Don't worry, they can vibe code the rest in no time. /s

[–] phyzome 5 hours ago

For the kind of end-to-end encrypted support they advertise? Tuta is the only one I know of.

Email more broadly? I can heartily recommend Fastmail.

I don't really send anything sensitive over email if I can help it. Signal is a much better choice.

[–] juliend2 6 hours ago

Andy Yen himself mentions "Tuta": https://tuta.com/en/secure-email

[–] ianmarcinkowski 5 hours ago

The CEO sounds like .. a loser. :) I'm kidding! He sounds very smart!

If the company isn't going to hit revenue targets they might actually need to fire people and this can be a good way to provide cover that devs aren't meeting requirements so they can be fired with cause.

A past company CEO sounded very similar to this internally before they fired 30% of the staff because they didn't have enough money.

My current vibe reading on CEOs who think every job can be done with AI today is the athlete who starts celebrating before crossing the finish line, to be passed bysomeone who takes the win. My guys, it's not that good yet!