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points by adriand 3 hours ago | 0 comments

The deniers have transitioned to doomers. Originally they said we needn’t fight climate change because it wasn’t real. Now that’s it’s undeniable they say we can’t fight climate change because it’s too late.

[–] conception 2 hours ago

That’s because the ultra wealthy are funding new talking points.

[–] yongjik 1 hour ago

These days I believe the ultra-wealthy are just a fun scapegoat. Sure, they are guilty of many sins, but most of the time people mention them, there's never any concrete plan to make things better, other than a vague "eat the rich," which we all know will never happen. (And it's really unclear how eating the rich allows us to, say, move around without burning more gas.)

These rhetorics have a distinct feeling of "I found another out-group to which I will assign all the blame, which is very convenient, because I don't want to ever hear 'The earth is going to shit and I could have done something about it.'"

[–] SecretDreams 1 hour ago

In addition to making us feel better, eating the rich takes them off the table and might allow democracy to slowly work again, whereby decisions are made by the people for the people. Lots of damage to undo ahead of any of this, though. And it starts with eating the rich... Or at least looking at wealth taxes, banning lobbying, getting money out of politics as best we can, etc.

We cannot solve/tackle climate change when we don't even have functional governments that actually try to genuinely support their citizens needs.

[–] fwip 1 hour ago

One nice benefit of eating the rich, is that we're then free to use the wealth they've hoarded in ways that benefit the public.

[–] taneq 2 hours ago

“We’re going to follow the Four Stage Strategy.”