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Pico CSS is no longer maintained(github.com)

50 points by henrid 1 hour ago | 17 comments

[–] sphars 31 minutes ago

Some recent alternatives/successors/forks that are in the same vein as Pico

- Nimble: https://leftium.github.io/nimble.css/demo/pico.html

- Sumi.css: https://vladocar.github.io/Sumi.css/docs.html

- Blades: https://github.com/anyblades/blades

- Oat: https://oat.ink/

[–] j45 4 minutes ago

Pico is a great little library.

Thank you to the developer and maintainer

For what it’s worth I had to force Claude early in to use pico and not ever generate react or ornate tailwind.

Pico is extraordinary for standalone tools where ai can’t let complexity build out of control.

Maybe there’s other options but pico is what got it done, and vanilla LLMs has a hard time keeping something this simple and elegant and flexible.

[–] eterps 1 hour ago

I really enjoyed using Pico CSS, but I understand the choice.

Thank you Lucas Larroche for building Pico CSS and sharing it with us.

[–] Retr0id 1 hour ago

https://github.com/anyblades/blades seems to be a continuation in the same spirit

[–] anydigital 48 minutes ago

Thanks for sharing! Same spirit, new home.

We’re actively maintaining Blades CSS over on GitHub and Discord, and would love community feedback.

We also set up a dedicated page outlining key details: https://blades.dev/css/pico/

[–] verandaguy 33 minutes ago

I haven't done frontend dev in a while, but one thing stands out to me here... they call out using OKLCH colours, which I had to look up. (For the uninitiated, this is a cylindrical projection of the also-new-to-me Oklab colour space, which appears largely unrelated to the older CIE L*a*b* colour space).

Do people actually use this? In particular, before LLMs ate the world, I mean. When I did frontend, it was hex, or if you felt fancy, `rgba(...)` (though at that point named colours had mostly fallen out of style).

Is using these less-intuitive colour encodings made more practical through the use of CSS variables?

[–] velcrovan 17 minutes ago

Well I use it on my personal site: the colors change with the weather and seasons [1]. Oklab’s so-what is that the hues are perceptually a uniform brightness, unlike HSL (which I started with) where blues and reds look a lot brighter than greens and yellows at the same saturation/lightness.

So in my case where color shifting is happening, Oklab actually helps. I don’t know how it’s better than HSL for simple UI elements unless maybe you can get physically brighter values that pop out more on certain screens.

[1]: https://joeldueck.com

[–] Brajeshwar 23 minutes ago

Yes, since the last couple of years. I tend to help architect and scaffold large projects that goes on for years, and changes a lot of developers, designers in its lifecycle. I was pretty confident of moving to OKLCH about 4-years ago and have have had it as default. OKLCH values are now the source of truth for these projects, and other design elements — all the way to Powerpoints (HEX/RGB) and Print (CMYK) are derived from OKLCH. There are variations but most people don’t even know the difference.

This started way back working with my long-term business partner and he built a pretty good tool to help visualize and tinker with it.

Website https://colorcolor.in

Source https://github.com/saneef/color-color

[–] sergiomattei 25 minutes ago

This is my fave article on the subject:

https://evilmartians.com/chronicles/oklch-in-css-why-quit-rg...

[–] steve_adams_86 1 hour ago

A little sad in a way, but this seems like the right call. I haven't used Pico in a very long time, and I don't think I'd choose it today.

[–] nchmy 52 minutes ago

What would you choose?

[–] psadri 58 minutes ago

Hmm. I use pico. They could use an agent to modernize it!

[–] 0c3ca83 38 minutes ago

Yeah, but why? Writing code for agents to use isn't fun, and buying tokens for it is a waste of money.

[–] u8 1 hour ago

What a tragedy.

[–] smlx 54 minutes ago

> To stay relevant, Pico CSS would need a full rewrite: plain modern CSS instead of Sass, built on features it doesn't use today (OKLCH colors, cascade layers, Popover, anchor positioning) with fallbacks for older browsers, and a native compiler that strips unused CSS and makes customization easy.

Does anyone know a similar project doing this?

[–] anydigital 33 minutes ago

We do: https://github.com/anyblades/blades

Already plain modern CSS instead of Sass, has Popover API, and CSS layers for individual components, OKLCH colors are on the way.

Drop-in compatible with Pico CSS (via underlying fork)

[–] efilife 30 minutes ago

But why? Is it not relevant anymore? It's as useful and capable as it was years ago