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points by ndm000 3 days ago | 0 comments

Comments here are not considering what Anthropic is doing with Claude as a product. The models matter, yes. But they are building Claude into the only tool you need to get business done. In the past few weeks they have added slides and docs - a shot across the bow to Microsoft's dominance. If they can pull off building the best interface to get work done, $500b in revenue starts to seem not too crazy. It's more about selling a complete product than it is about selling tokens.

[–] ulimn 3 days ago

I somewhat agree to what you said, but also, the whole point of agentic coding is that "code is cheap". So I can't imaging companies like Google not having the resources (whether human or token) to build a better agentic assistant/harness than what Anthropic can. I mean Google has a pretty good starting point with Google Docs, etc.

[–] shrinks99 3 days ago

These suites are also majorly sticky. Would you, as a business, want to completely ditch your ability to open any document you ever created?

[–] KerrAvon 3 days ago

Anthropic is locking me in how exactly? Everything's a markdown document.

[–] thisismyaccoun7 2 days ago

I expect it will be in ui and integration as the platform builds out further. Then you'll get people who don't want to switch because they don't know how to use other things, like with OSes, phones (android vs iphone, heck even Samsung vs other androids for some folks), office products (why is no one using free Google docs over paid m365), etc.

[–] tsunamifury 3 days ago

No, they specifically are not sticky at all. Thats the whole problem.

[–] verdverm 3 days ago

For developers or the business team? Which group are you and are you making assumptions about the other?

[–] tsunamifury 3 days ago

either ... portability is nearly instant except for KV Cache, which is extrodinarily expensive to store.

[–] verdverm 3 days ago

Business people do not even know what that is. Are you talking about models when the rest of us are talking about harnesses and the interface people use?

[–] port11 3 days ago

Google’s issue (and many large companies’?) is organisational. Google has famously launched a bunch of products to compete in multiple markets, only to sunset these products soon after.

[–] feistypharit 3 days ago

Everybody, everywhere pretty much always underestimates maintenance. And AI sucks at maintenance. It’ll just as likely nuke everything than actually maintain a piece of code running in production.

[–] theptip 3 days ago

It’s asymmetrical though. Google is terrible at product and moves glacially slow.

Anthropic can take the parts of Google it needs FAR faster than Google can do the reverse.

[–] jjfoooo4 3 days ago

What is Claude doing as a product that other similar companies aren't also doing, or can't easily catch up on?

[–] causal 3 days ago

One big thing: Opus is one of the few models that you can mostly trust not to get prompt hijacked. This can make all the difference between trusted in the office vs. not.

[–] aurareturn 3 days ago

Fully integrated business management system.

[–] verdverm 3 days ago

brand development

[–] KerrAvon 3 days ago

Vonnegut's butthole isn't a good brand

[–] verdverm 2 days ago

It's a trend https://velvetshark.com/ai-company-logos-that-look-like-butt...

snark aside, they do have the best brand, the business team was constrained to one choice for simplicity, they picked claude

[–] theptip 3 days ago

Yeah I’m really surprised at how little attention this is getting.

I’d say it’s more Notion than GDocs for now, but the direction is clear. Gobbling up all the SaaS in order of descending value to agents.

My bet is on promoting their internal Tasks representation to something more like a Jira/Linear.

But then obviously Slack is another one, and Duet is already starting to build a “Channel” abstraction, so making Duet multiplayer is a clear possible next step.

[–] KerrAvon 3 days ago

Opus 5.5 is the frontier today. But there are more ways for Anthropic to lose than to remain in that position. I'd take Anthropic stock if you gave it to me but I sure as fuck wouldn't buy into it.

The tool is not a moat when you can tell Opus to build you a better tool.