OpenAI and Anthropic wouldn't be able to get enterprise contracts without it.
Sure, the AI vendors could be lying, but I think it unlikely given the harm it would do to them to violate an enterprise contract in this way.
[–] notrealyme123 2 days ago
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The users in this case had given permission for their data to be used for training (or at least hadn't opted out). They had not, of course, given permission for their data to be shared publicly or with a third party in this way. Consequently, OpenAI categorized this as a breach (i.e., something they did not intend to do), and sought to rectify the situation.
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Did it harm them in any real way that the original training material was also of questionable origin? Not the least.
We're being naive if we think this is not happening. Apart from some high profile enterprise contracts (which average Joe Physics Researcher does not have as they are using "free" credits insteador pay a personal account out of their own pocket), everything remotely attractive is being mined. Too sweet of a gold mine to pass by.
I'll stand corrected if an official statement from OpenAI/Anthropic comes out stating the opposite together with a whistleblower program worth its name. Until then it is safe (and reasonable) to assume that this is going on. The silence is telling.
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That's if you have any reason to believe in the justice system to actually enforce that, which has already been proven complicated (although not impossible!) to demonstrate for copyrighted content.
At this point believing the frontier labs at their word is utterly naive. They have cheated and they will cheat if it gives them any hope of leaping ahead of their competitors.
[–] rickdeckard 2 days ago
They review applications beforehand to assess the "relevance of the research proposal" and check if it fits "the objectives and research priorities for this program".
There is no statement whatsoever that the data provided will not be used for training (so there would not be an "lying" required), but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
In essence, they have a process in place to grade and classify the type of information coming from each of those accounts prior to their enablement. I see no issue for them to feed that data back into training, even explicitly weighted for the field the research-access was given to.
Honestly, it's a perfect process: "Physics-research grants are reaching critical mass. Let's put priority on more physics field grants and boost the compute-resources for the physics model. Let's aim for some press-releases end of next quarter."
[0] https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10139500-researcher-acce...
Right now we have to Pay it ourself, and we are very aware that oai might use our research.