points by bsenftner 2 days ago | 0 comments
If that data is at all important, why is is downloadable?
[–] jalict 2 days ago
[–] bsenftner 2 days ago
A robots.txt file is not anything, not enforceable, it's politeness. Of course it was ignored.
[–] ForHackernews 2 days ago
Sue them. They'd sue you for ignoring their ToS.
[–] fg137 2 days ago
That fight was already lost back in 2024.
[–] whizzter 2 days ago
It's a community site, first model I looked at (Tanya by Shrimport) is under CC-BY-ND-NC licence (Creative Commons, By attribution, No-derivatives, Non-commercial).
AI training by definition is derivative, and Roblox not using it for commercial purposes if used in production is practically nil.
This is a huge part of why AI upsets people, we can't have nice things such as communities where people are sharing 3d models without it being feeding ground for commercial companies that has little intention to ever honor any licences or compensate authors.
[–] bunderbunder 2 days ago
If courts say that training models is fair use then copyright and license terms are moot.
[–] phoghed 2 days ago
It’s not fully played out in the courts yet, but so far doesn’t look like it’s going to be enforced how you want it to be.
[–] trollbridge 2 days ago
Except someone can explicitly licence their content saying "this cannot be used for training models, or you're violating the licence you used to download it in the first place".
[–] anticensor 1 day ago
AI training is considered inalienable right in certain jurisdictions.
> The crawler did not respect our robots.txt, (which it did retrieve), ignored our Terms of Service, (which forbid scraping), and defied the creators' licenses: 423 of the 712 projects are licensed for non-commercial use only.