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Herdr has released native app(github.com)
44 points by cherioo 2 hours ago | 35 comments
[–] thewisenerd 17 minutes ago
while they do this, i hope they do not drop support for regular/other terminals

ignoring ALL the AI/agent features, herdr has been a decent replacement for tmux with saner defaults

so much so that i'm reaching for installing herdr instead of tmux and i would like to not be locked to a "desktop app" for it

[–] steve_adams_86 25 minutes ago
Is anyone else finding that it doesn't pick up Claude Code agents? My Agents pane stays empty no matter how many instances I start and work in. Appears to continue to work fine in herdr, though.
[–] flippant 1 hour ago
I switched to herdr this year after a decade of using tmux, and I haven't looked back since. Herdr is wonderful, not only because of the coding agent integrations, but also because it uses libghostty under the hood. So no terminal-emulator-inside-another-terminal-emulator shenanigans.

If you prefer GUIs, I can recommend herdr-gpui which connects to a herdr daemon. It has a bunch of goodies like remote phone pairing, and a built-in browser integration to send screenshots and notes to coding agents.

https://github.com/penso/herdr-gpui

[–] FluffyPancake 1 hour ago
> Herdr is wonderful, not only because of the coding agent integrations, but also because it uses libghostty under the hood. So no terminal-emulator-inside-another-terminal-emulator shenanigans.

Now I’m interested. Does it have basic feature parity? How does it compare to tmux in your experience?

[–] yoyohello13 1 hour ago
I've been using Zellij a long time and considered using Herdr, but the VC funding aspect scares me. I don't want to invest a bunch of time in a tool that's going to treat me as a product.
[–] skinfaxi 1 hour ago
It's open source so if that changes you can always fork? I already have some personalizations accruing on my fork.
[–] desireco42 1 hour ago
I used Zellij in the past, it is also fantastic and intuitive product. I had issues with... I think selection and copying and pasting which made me abandon it as I was getting frustrated. Herdr has been wonderful and I've been using it for a while.
[–] mark_l_watson 50 minutes ago
Nice! I have been using herdr for a few months, love it and for me it is a step up from years using tmux. The new native Herdr app is yet another step up. I use multiple Macs with Tailscale connections and the Herdr app makes jumping around to different projects and different machines easier.
[–] DaSHacka 1 hour ago
Darn, title had me thinking they released a mobile app to compliment the TUI daemon.

termux+mosh is fine, but especially on a phone I'd love a slightly more intuitive (or really, efficient) UI. Especially as mosh breaks touch/mouse input on the remote host.

I've never understood the point of the desktop GUI harnesses to run TUI (or at the very least, primarily text-based) programs anyway, but perhaps they're better for onboarding less tech-savvy users.

[–] sooheon 1 hour ago
Have you tried moshi? It’s Herdr aware.

Tui-in-guis like orca are nice mostly because of sensible keybinds without prefix or leader

[–] adamisnotroman 56 minutes ago
try cosyra mobile. Its the best mobile client for herdr. It uses websocket and is has a really smooth ux.
[–] sangupta 1 hour ago
Haven't used Herdr before - was looking at README and was looking to check screenshots and documentation. However, Chrome reports the SSL cert to the site https://herdr.dev as invalid. Will wait till it gets resolved.
[–] jbellis 1 hour ago
If you like Herdr, you might also appreciate https://github.com/BrokkAi/mjolnir/, which is similar in its multiplexing features (although built on ACP) but offers cross-provider subagents, memory and session log sync, live migration of sessions across profiles and providers, and load balancing across multiple subscriptions.
[–] oefrha 56 minutes ago
Supports SSH to remote machines out of the box, cool. I wonder if the protocol is more efficient than the TUI over SSH, would be nice on crappy connections when traveling.
[–] adamisnotroman 53 minutes ago
the poor experience on a crappy network connection is an SSH problem unfortunately
[–] oefrha 47 minutes ago
It is, but if you send more efficient deltas, batch packets more intelligently, and introduce non-blocking UI tricks, the experience can be improved by quite a bit. mosh demonstrates some of that.
[–] yodon 1 hour ago
A native app is definitely a good thing.

herdr is great, and the original runs-in-a-terminal vision was cool, but at least on OSX it has a ton of selection management bugs that are pretty sucky.

[–] game_the0ry 1 hour ago
This is the first time I have even hear of Herdr, and I try to make an effort to follow ai.

It's getting very difficult to keep up with all the agent harnesses coming out. I love ai but wow its hard to keep up.

[–] ramraj07 59 minutes ago
Herdr is not exactly obscure. I would argue your effort to follow ai hasn’t been that effective.
[–] tiffanyh 1 hour ago
What’s the planned monetization model for all the terminal multiplexers backed by VC funding like Herdr, Rex, etc?
[–] oefrha 41 minutes ago
Being acquired for $10B by $1T companies.
[–] skinfaxi 1 hour ago
If the terminal is just a screen to a remote, they will sell you the remote, completely integrated into the harness.
[–] adamisnotroman 1 hour ago
I think they are all planning to make money on selling cloud or inference
[–] pdantix 18 minutes ago
feels like they're trying to get ahead of superlogical's rex.

took all of installing it on windows and setting up my mac as an SSH machine to see the slop all through the UI. i'll just wait for rex's windows client i guess.

[–] ziofill 1 hour ago
> Usage telemetry is on by default in releases. Turn it off in Settings → Privacy.

Probably a good idea if you work with sensitive data (and you’re already on Zero Data Retention)

[–] Skunkleton 1 hour ago
There is a Windows 98 mode w/ minesweeper, solitaire, and clippy!

Edit: oh neat! Its self editing.

[–] Hitech-Redneck 1 hour ago
I've been holding this at arms length. Interested, but I'm so stuck on tmux.
[–] adamisnotroman 1 hour ago
Yep it’s awesome. I’m going to integrate the core engine to my mobile app so I can control it remotely.
[–] skinfaxi 1 hour ago
Collie already does pretty well. https://github.com/AltanS/collie
[–] blntechie 48 minutes ago
Just termius + tmux works for me on my Android phone and iPad. I have a ntfy topic to alert from Pi when it needs something.
[–] pupppet 1 hour ago
How does it compare to CMUX?
[–] lucas_the_human 34 minutes ago
I love herdr, nice work team!
[–] jauntywundrkind 44 minutes ago
Which of these various new multiplexers (herdr, cmux, etc) work over ssh, and which have protocols underneath?

I've been scripting tmux for a while now, and it's not the greatest. And when I have a bunch of opencode sessions rolling along often my tmux could usage is smoking. I'd be happy to try other things. But I'd way rather get into something with protocols, that is open to play.

[–] desireco42 1 hour ago
I don't think I need it, but Herdr has been absolutely rock solid for me. And I have this app Pairfob that I can check things up on the phone if I really want to. And while I don't use it quite as often, seems to be more solid then Chatgpt (Codex) and other apps.

I have 2 machines and laptop linked together and running things have never been easier.